On Romantic Relationships

RitoDeviluke said:

To me relationships as depicted in some romcom or shoujo stuff are not meaningful.

meaningful = more than sueface level attraction. more than just oh i met girl shes hot . relationship development exists just like character development and maybe men who for some reason cant watch anything but surface level sexual attraction with no payoff shpuld try to appreciate a meaningful development of a relationship with a payoff. rather than hundreds of scenes of fan service woth no substance behind it ...nosebleeds, passing out, screaming when the mc even sees panties . all these annoying " male focused animw" tropes make it seem like we cant understand romantic build up that is actually meaningful. i think the idea that men will pnly accept the current status of romance in male anime is not true. true it would be different than for women but it would cobsist of a man protecting and caring for his woman... from danger and the ugliness of the world. maybe even men marrying women in anime, having families and raising them together. these could fit in most anime, even naruto did it and it was a beautiful relationship buildup between naruto and hinata[/quote]

Here you said it 'protecting and caring for his woman...'

If you do mean literal meaning of these words, then that is just as much of a female wish fulfilment as harem anime is male one.

That is awfully one sided: only what she needs from him.

Shoujo/josei shows are all just about this one-sided love that caters to woman needs in a relationship.

In real world things are different.

What it is, that she can offer him in return for this care and protection?

Why would a guy just protect a girl simply because she is a woman?

I by one would not care for such a selfish girl who sees relationship in shoujo anime one sided way.

I do not simp or play a white knight to a girl who thinks she is a princess or something. There are guys like that somewhere out there but they are not me.

I am King, King only needs servants. Subjects who obey and follow his command.

Harem anime on the other hand caters to male needs from a relationship. It is not about nosebleeds or even male MC at all. It is about a selection of women that are available 24/7 for male sexual gratification. This selection of available and willing women is why guys like it and watch it. There is no further development because it would get into 18+ territory.

There are hentai anime where sex actually happens in such harems. Where MC sleeps with all of the girls.

Bondage Game is probably too radical for you, but say Yume Kui - Tsurumiku Shiki Game Seisaku or Himekishi Lilia.

How is that for development. These are my kind of developments.

As you can see male and female version of an ideal relationship is rather different.

Of sfw harems I can recommend DearS (semi-harem kind of) and Hand Maid May.

Of non-harem I can also list.

There is also Darker than Black Gaiden (4 episodes long). I personally like Yin and I like the kind of relationship she has with Hei in Gaiden. I would want to gag and tie her up and go full nsfw on her.

Akari from 5 Centmeters per Second is also a good example of likable girl. Circumstances tear them apart, but I can wish to be with someone like Akari.